 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 such that
 such that 
 is minimal in its isogeny class.  One derives different
optimal quotients of
 is minimal in its isogeny class.  One derives different
optimal quotients of  ,
,  , and from the Jacobians of
Shimura curves.  It would be very interesting to have algorithms for
computing structural isomorphism invariants which distinguish these
quotients.  See work of Glenn Stevens [Ste89] for a
conjectural answer in the case of elliptic curves (and recent work
of Nike Vatsal (and Stein-Watkins [SW04]) for proofs 
of Stevens' conjectures.
, and from the Jacobians of
Shimura curves.  It would be very interesting to have algorithms for
computing structural isomorphism invariants which distinguish these
quotients.  See work of Glenn Stevens [Ste89] for a
conjectural answer in the case of elliptic curves (and recent work
of Nike Vatsal (and Stein-Watkins [SW04]) for proofs 
of Stevens' conjectures.
 , as else you can have
that neither an isogeny or its dual is étale.
, as else you can have
that neither an isogeny or its dual is étale.